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The results are obvious to you. In any case, what they saw at the end of all this counting wasWell, first of all, what they saw was this pattern that rat pups who got licked a lot as babies, when they grew up, they licked their babies a lot and the rat pups who didn't get licked a lot, when they grew up, they didn't lick their babies. They have found very similar effects for smoking, for instance. Like Id be like, Weve got the keys, were gonna trash the house., Anyway, we think about that all the time and I was just talking to Lulu about that and she was just like, You know, theres a radiolab about this.. Right away, people accused her of targeting women at their weakest moment and enabling their drug abuse. I agree with Lynn, that this program does perpetuate a stereotype. LATIF: Still, still standing. PAT: She actually emailed me afterwards and adjusted that number down a couple hundred. When Kammerer published his results initially, a bunch of scientists immediately began to say "Wait a minute, hold on here, it would be nice if life was like that but life isn't like that. Take a look, explore and subscribe! And I've got say, I'm feeling pretty good about this show so far. Never mind, you're stuck with small boobies." PAT: The way she saw it, the state, the federal government, somebody BARBARA HARRIS: Should say, "You're not doing this. I mean, yes, I might get a great family, but I might not. And those lucky ones, according to Darwin's theory, they would have had to have been born with some random mutation in their genes That gave them an advantage in this situation. [2] LYNN PALTROW: Tell me what your image of a drug-using pregnant woman is. Barbara Harris. ROBERT: Telling some genes to turn off now, other genes to turn on. In this episode, originally aired in 2012, we put nature and nurture on a collision course and discover how outside forces can find a way inside us, and change not just our hearts and minds, but the basic biological blueprint that we pass on to future generations._Support Radiolab by becoming a member of The Lab today. 10 Controversial And Thought-Provoking 'Radiolab' Episodes. You've got these toads who hate water. You've got these toads who hate water. Stick around. She's not offering treatment, she's not offering counseling, and there are programs that do that. It goes back to the 1800s. All right, I'll get in the water." But then, a few years would pass, crops would bounce back. Its gonna get messy. Not only that. Okay, all right, this is interesting. More brain cells? Okay, and then I just had to accept it. I want her to be able to look back on her life one day, maybe when she's getting interviewed, I don't know, and be able to say that, "Yes, my mom was there for me 100% without a doubt." JAD: What can't you? So for Isaiah, being born was like just being cut off. Radiolab - Transcripts Subscribe 187 episodes Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. Where we sought, they will find. Michael and Frances looked inside the brains of these rats and what they saw was that the rats who had been licked a lot as babies, they had more stuff in their head. JAD: What you see in the records, is that one year PEJK MALINOVSKI: 100 liters. CARL ZIMMER: More information about Sloan at JAD: Yeah, we're exploring questions of lwhat can you pass down to your kids and their kids? This week The Science Show introduces Radiolab from WNYC in New York City. CARL ZIMMER: The right hand had been cut off for microscopic slides. CARL ZIMMER: Yeah. And Destiny says she doesn't really care DESTINY HARRIS: I got these genes from somewhere, but I kind of feel like she was a surrogate, like she carried me for my real mom. JAD: No, not brain cells. You have to look at one cage, say, are they licking? At the Vivarium, as the name suggests, they have live animals. And one of them is called the thyroid system. Kammerer thought, "Wow.". It happens. CARL ZIMMER: And he says, "This isn't a nuptial pad, it looks darkened but that's just ink.". DESTINY HARRIS: No, she was an oops kid. So we did stop. PAT: Because when a woman uses heroin while she's pregnant, the fetus gets hooked on it too. MICHAEL MEANEY: I think the Swedish data are really, really strong, and very reliable. New York Public Radio transcripts are created on a rush deadline, often by contractors. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: I think that's where Lamarck's ideas can be woven in and make some sense. And he makes a very careful study of this hand. So Barbara and her son got in the car and drove across town to the foster home where Destiny had been living for the past eight months. It seemed to have been passed down for multiple generations. At this really marvelous place called the Vivarium. Nobody has a right to do that to a baby. Hosted by Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser, Radiolab is a podcast known for using innovative sound design to ask deep questions and investigative journalism to get the answers. [laughs] Can you say, "Never, ever?" You don't think that they should have their children back?]. She did. PAT: Barbara started finding herself on panels with women who'd use drugs during their pregnancies. She was totally an oops kid. That's Sam Kean again. Theyd basically starve. ], [ARCHIVAL Clip, News: To any drug-addicted woman who will agree to have no more babies. Then choose either Section II OR Section III and answer all questions in that . They decided to explore this question. Apparently, those grandkids SAM KEAN: Were less prone to diabetes. Mamaw was the one I'd come to see. JAD: Or very many of them right at all, but, you know, his basic idea seems to be true. And in 1989, when the story we're telling now started, she was living in California, in Orange County. And then that baby would stretch and stretch, and it would give a little more stretching to its baby. PEJK MALINOVSKI: This is the verkalix church parish record. Visit our website terms of use at www.wnyc.org for further information. See, this is the story of science that doesn't get told. PAT: Which I find kind of hard to believe but, then again, I must have read at least 100 news articles as I was reporting this story. On the one hand, she says, immediately, cheques started arriving. As to diabetes, it was a four-fold risk. His big idea, as you might know, is that what a person does in their lifetime could be directly passed to their kids. There was a newspaper called The Daily Express and they have these headlines that come out. ROBERT: Although, you know, sometimes that your grandfather's suffering helps you. So much can happen after that. It would be wrong to think that they represent all women who use drugs while they're pregnant. I want to start with a parental day dream for a second. You just haven't evolved for this and there's no way you can, at least not quickly. JAD: Is that a genetic hatred of whistling that I just had? You're finishing college, right? I make a difference to her. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: He had no idea about DNA. JAD: Plus, you know, Lamarck didn't get all the biological details right. Radiolab: Parasites Transcript For copyright reasons we can't provide a transcript of the WNYC Radiolab feature on parasites. PEJK MALINOVSKI: He was an idiot. They won't grow much on the outside, but on the inside That is the time where the sperms are developing. Once their born, their genes are fixed and change does not happen in a generation or two. JAD: They all go down to the DNA, surround that methyl and just, pow! And youre saying that part of the DNA is covered up? CARL ZIMMER: It all came down to this jar with his toad in it. I just saw them as child abusers. LYNN PALTROW: I think I was really horrified and terrified. It might be a mixture. Your support helps Radiolab continue to provoke, delight, and keep audiences curious. CARL ZIMMER: Kammerer puts on a suit and he walks off into the mountains SAM KEAN: Outside Vienna on a Rocky mountain trail. Here's what Olov says he found in the data. It's a guided audio tour through cities where Radiolab Ken Burns and others. That was amazing. To fellow named Jean-Baptiste Pierre Antoine de Monet, chevalier de Lamarck. I mean, yes, I might get a great family, but I might not. Well, yep, that is so true. DESTINY HARRIS: And right now, I'm student teaching. SAM KEAN: It seemed to have been passed down for multiple generations. Well, I mean, Hitler thought that if you were Jewish, that you had given up the right to be a mother and hed sterilize people as well. That's the stuff that makes you you. If you start smoking when you're 10, 11 something like that, you end up having children with more problems. ROBERT: They would experience these wild changes from harvest to harvest. You can't change your DNA. Move on to the next cage, yes, no? I don't like to upset people. PAT: This, of course, is Destiny. In this episode, originally aired in 2012, we put nature and nurture on a collision course and discover how outside forces can find a way inside us, and change not just our hearts and minds, but the basic biological blueprint that we pass on to future generations.Support Radiolab by becoming a member of The Lab today. PAT: Lynn has become one of Barbara's fiercest critics. ROBERT: So if they saw somebody who was starving as a kid in 1820, they could then see, "Well, when those people had children and grandchildren, did anything change? I mean, I'm married to a Black man. ROBERT: But, this hour were gonna fight this sort of sad sack feeling of inevitability and impotence. But what exactly Maybe you can explain this to me, Robert. I know I've been joking a lot in this interview, but I mean it with all that I am. PAT: So we did stop. In RadioLab a laboratory setting is used, in which the player receives radioactive stones that emit alpha, beta and gamma radiation particles. Because he couldn't hold formula down. MICHAEL MEANEY: Yeah, it drifts into something like a shopping channel. ROBERT: But luckily for the Vivarium and for our story, they had a guy. Live shows were first offered in 2008. We need to oblige the constraints of WNYC copyright arrangements and apologise for any inconveniences caused. Not been born at all. Kinda makes me claustrophobic. I had a little basketball for her. They all go down to the DNA, surround that methyl and just, pow! ROBERT: According to Darwin, life and changes are ruled by chance. But it failed. I mean, the idea that they could be constrained by their DNA, that maybe one of us gave them a bit of DNA thats gonna hold them back? Isaiah's in college and Taylor and Brandon, I met them at Barbara's house and they seemed to be fine. ROBERT: That's Sam Kean again. The team that creates each episode, including hosts Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich, are master storytellers. Peanut butter, there we go. LYNN PALTROW: The women who I've worked with, who've had a history of drug problems, aren't like the examples that she gives. Although, you know, sometimes that your grandfather's suffering helps you. My home village was 10 miles North of polar circle. PAT: And by this point, she's 37 years old. This is from 2002. JAD: Serotonin gets into the brain cells, and according to Michael unleashes MICHAEL MEANEY: A whole series of molecular events inside the cell. According to Frances, it's not just sitting up there perfectly preserved, it's in the middle of the cell, it's crowded. It was something they acquired during their lifetime. And if you haven't, you can choose to have an IUD, or an implant put in which will last for several years. PAT: Yeah. PEJK MALINOVSKI: It says "registrera", register. All rights reserved. Like, "How did this happen? JAD: And at first, it didn't go so well because, you know, if you're a land toad and you're trying to have sex in the water, it's kind of hard. Cause we were talking to science writer, Carl Zimmer, and he told us that back in the early 1900s, this tension between Lamarck and Darwin got extra tense. And um BARBARA HARRIS: I had asked for a newborn, so when the social worker called me, she said, "I have this cute little baby girl for you but she's eight months old. And since Kammerer kept the heat up, toads basically had to stay there, in this watery place that they had not evolved for. A little village? The lady knew why we were there. Push yourself and you got it.". In this episode, originally aired in 2012, we put nature and nurture on a collision course and discover how outside forces can find a way inside us, and change not just our hearts and minds, but the basic biological blueprint that we pass on to future generations. JAD: I want to start with a parental day dream for a second. Watching this, I couldn't help but think that Destiny's very existence is probably the most interesting argument against what Barbara is doing. The next stage, yes, no? [chuckles]. That's against the rules. SAM KEAN: Because theyre reaching for the tops of trees. Move on to the next cage, yes, no? PAT: And at a certain point, I noticed over my shoulder Barbara's crouched down and she's got her phone out and she's taking a picture of this just perfect little scene. If Barbara had gotten to Destiny's birth mom, Destiny, Kalia, this moment, none of it would exist. But with the midwife toad, the female Lays her eggs on land and then the male midwife toad comes along And actually kind of sticks them to his back legs, like a bunch of whitish grapes, and then hops around with them basically until they hatch. That's a lot of people. And Barbara and Destiny walked me out to my car. ROBERT: [laughs] We now know that thats not the case. You're eight, sorry. ROBERT: Okay. Is that what you're saying? When they got another call from a social worker saying that same mother, Destiny's birth mother, had given birth to another child. A lot of times that's not the case. SECTION I - Story 1 (Lamark, Krammerer & the Midwife Toads) 1. She filled out the forms went BARBARA HARRIS: Through all the training that we had to do and first aid, fingerprinted and had a background check done. SAM KEAN: Except he had one. And The other day someone was whistling and I was like, "Stop it", and it just hit me, I was like, "Oh God, I was him", it's never appeared until now. SAM KEAN: They wanted to see basically the effects of starvation on multiple generations. I think that's where Lamarck's ideas can be woven in and make some sense. CARL ZIMMER: But there were a lot of skeptics. A little village? It was just no baby should have to come into the world like that. Yeah, the social worker called and told me the mother had given birth. Nice, cool water. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: You would be licking them quite a lot. You are not God. This was a really radical place at the time because you have to remember that people studying animals up till now, they were basically studying preserved specimens, and so on. He's not just talking about toads anymore, he's gone way beyond toads. To any drug-addicted woman who will agree to have no more babies. JAD: Started with the tongue. PAT: And that number, by the way, has grown a lot. And so, you could only see one nuptial pad, and it all comes down to thisand all of that was just about to fall apart. Professional authors can write an essay in 3 hours, if there is a certain volume, but it must be borne in mind that with such a service the price will be the highest. I had asked for a newborn, so when the social worker called me, she said, "I have this cute little baby girl for you but she's eight months old. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: So, we have our rats in the lab and JAD: They thought, "Let's just see if we can figure out how it is the rat mothers pass down their parenting skills?". OLOV BYGREN: Yes, we are really data-rich. PAT: A year later, she gets another call. 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